What HOA And Condo Fees Do To Your Approval
Two people, same income, same credit, same savings. One gets approved for a noticeably bigger house than the other. Nothing about them is different. The difference is the association fee on the community they are shopping in.
This surprises people every single time, so it is worth explaining properly.
You are approved for a payment, not a price
This is the whole thing, and almost nobody arrives knowing it.
When a lender approves you, it is not deciding what house you deserve. It is working out the largest total monthly housing payment your income supports, and then working backward to a price.
That total payment is not just the loan. It is the loan plus property taxes plus homeowners insurance plus association fees. All of it comes out of the same monthly budget, and the mortgage itself is whatever is left after everything else has taken its share.
So when the association fee goes up, the price you qualify for goes down. Not because anybody penalized you. Because the fee is already spending part of the money.
It is not just one fee
Down here they stack, and this is where people get caught.
A single family house can have HOA dues. A condo has an association fee. Some neighborhoods sit under a master association on top of their own association, so there are two. And plenty of communities have a CDD assessment, which shows up on the property tax bill rather than as a separate association bill, so buyers frequently do not know it is there until we pull the taxes.
Lakewood Ranch is the example everybody around here recognizes, but it is far from the only one. If you are shopping a newer planned community, assume there is something in the tax bill and let us check rather than guess.
Why are Florida fees so much higher?
Because a Florida condo fee is usually buying considerably more than a condo fee somewhere else.
The fee down here often covers the building's insurance, which is not a small line item in this state, plus water, garbage, sometimes cable, the pool, and the landscaping. In an older building it is also funding structural reserves, which associations are now required to fund properly after Surfside. That is not waste. That is a building being maintained on purpose instead of by emergency.
Your friend up north comparing fees with you is not comparing the same product. Their fee covers a fraction of what yours does.
Here is the part that stings, though. The lender counts the entire fee no matter what it covers. It does not matter that yours includes water and insurance and theirs does not. The whole thing comes out of your qualifying budget.
The special assessment problem
This is the one that moves deals late, so read this bit twice if you are under contract on a condo.
Association fees get re-verified while your loan is in process. If the association passes an increase, or approves a special assessment between your offer and your closing, the qualifying math changes after you are already under contract. A file that worked comfortably can tighten up quickly.
That is not a reason to avoid condos. It is a reason to ask early. Get the current fee schedule, get the association budget, and ask directly whether anything has been voted on or is being discussed. A board that is planning something usually knows well before the notice goes out.
What to bring me before you fall in love with a place
The current fee schedule for the specific community, not the number from a listing, because listing fee figures are wrong constantly. The actual property tax bill, so we catch a CDD if there is one. The association budget and any notice of an increase or assessment. And a real insurance quote rather than an estimate, because in this state the estimate and the real number are frequently not close.
Give me those and I can tell you what you actually qualify for in that specific community, which is a far more useful number than a general approval amount.
What this means practically
Do not shop on price alone. A place with a low fee and a place with a high fee at the same asking price are two different purchases for you, and only one of them may fit.
And do not rule out the higher fee automatically either. If it covers insurance, water, and a well funded reserve, it may be buying you predictability that the cheaper community bills you for separately later. Just know the number going in and let us run it, rather than discovering it during underwriting.
The short version
You are approved for a monthly payment, and association fees, condo fees, master association dues, and CDD assessments all come out of it before the mortgage does. Higher fees mean a lower purchase price for the same borrower. Florida fees run high because they cover more, including post Surfside reserves, and lenders count the whole fee regardless. Get the real numbers before you make an offer, not after.
If you are shopping a community with fees and want to know what you actually qualify for there, call or text me at (941) 941-5150 and we will run it properly. Tony Fitzgerald, NMLS #1284924. There is more on the HOA and condo fees page, and the price or payment explanation goes deeper on why the payment is the real constraint.
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